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Given 2010-08-22
Abortion by ~Amelee This piece caught my eye way back when it was first submitted and becoming a GM has given me the chance to revisit it. Whatever your view on the issue expressed in this Deviation the idea and the concept is bound to take over for even a second as you view this very poignant and powerful message. ( Featured by Kaz-D )
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Ojmjakom Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2017  Hobbyist Interface Designer
it is a good idea
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AutisticSkrub Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017
Very good.
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NoodleRubber Featured By Owner Edited Nov 17, 2016
 I think this photo oversimplifies the topic of abortion. 
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ElizabethSperry Featured By Owner May 26, 2016  Student General Artist
Why throw a toy doll? I want to see a real baby flying! lol i'm a troll
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 15, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I think women should get a choice. If they get raped, why should they be forced to have the baby?

Also, a lot (I mean a lot) of people say it is "killing" the baby. first off, it is a fetus. Second off, the abortion is done when the baby hasn't completely formed. If the baby is formed, then it is illegal.

Although, I'm not sure what this piece of art is conveying. Can someone help me figure it out?
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ShadowManGMR Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why should the baby have to die because of a rape? Why compound one tragedy by adding another?
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Noxious-Kitsune Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with what you have said here, and I think the artwork is showing that getting an abortion is like you are just throwing away the life of your child (which I don't really agree with, but I think that is what it is saying)
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
okay thanks. 

I don't agree with it either
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nontrix Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016
im the lady
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Gryffgirl Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2015
OMG!  I cannot stop staring at it.  So many feelings here and the fact that you lit the comment boards on fire with this one shows what a powerful statement a photo can make.  I have to admit that I flinched when I first saw it, but regardless of which side of the argument you are on, this image is strong!
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Faggotron-3000 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
I love killing unborn fetuses. Got a problem with that?  
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
Stick a drill up your ass, faggot.
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SeerSaint Featured By Owner Edited Sep 7, 2015
yhooooo? this is Evil
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner May 14, 2015
There's nothing wrong with abortion though.Give me a legit argument,no-one ever can.
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
Abortion's only okay in certain cases, such as when the mother's life's in danger.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
But the mother's life is always in danger. Pregnancy is very difficult to get through and is not a walk in the park, there is a very real possibility of death even today with all our medical advancements. Forcing someone to go through a pregnancy can be incredibly mentally and physically damaging for them, so why value a fetus over a person who already exists? Abortion is usually done before the fetus has any brain activity and is even the least bit conscious. 
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2017
Abortion isn't risk-free either. I have mixed thoughts on the first 12 weeks, but after that it shouldn't be done unless absolutely necessary.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2017
According to this source, 1 in every 10,000 women die during childbirth, while less than 1 in 100,000 women die during medical abortion ( www.womenonweb.org/en/page/561… ). I don't know how accurate that statistic is though.

It's true that abortion isn't risk free, but if somebody feels more comfortable undergoing through a more predictable procedure that doesn't come along with months of pregnancy and bringing a living person into this world, that's perfectly reasonable. 

Can you explain why you think that about the first 12 weeks?
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017
Because at that stage it's debatable how much pain the fetus is able to feel.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017
A fetus cannot feel pain up to 27 weeks, from what I know.
www.livescience.com/54774-feta…

"Third, the neurons that extend from the spinal cord into the brain need to reach all the way to the area of the brain where pain is perceived. This does not occur until between 23 and 24 weeks, according to the review."

There is much more information on that article about this.
Thing is, a fetus isn't conscious during those stages, it has no feelings, memory or self-awareness.
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2017
That sounds like typical pro-choice brainwashing, a 24-week-old fetus is exactly the same as an already born baby only smaller.
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 15, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner May 16, 2016
Thank you
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 16, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm kind of frustrated that people think women shouldn't have a choice.
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
Women shouldn't have a choice to murder.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner May 17, 2016
I know, right? It's such a huge deal. It baffles me that people would put a potential life that is barely even developed enough to be called a person before an actual living breathing woman.
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
exactly. And besides, it's done before the fetus has developed!
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner May 18, 2016
I know! It's insane. If you had a fetus on a petri dish and a full grown woman in front of you, but you could only save one, who would you save?? Some people would say the fetus and that's insane..
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Haunted-kitty Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
yea it is!!

Also, they act like the fetus wants to live. First off, its not even alive! Nor does it have thoughts!!
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2015
3.3 million childless couples who want children. Imagine if all those babies killed by Planned Parenthood were instead adopted.

Ethical argument: it's not pro-choice when the baby isn't given one. It's just plain old murder, but denied because people PRETEND to themselves that a human being who is unable yet to speak is subhuman and killing subhumans is "Okay". Abortion in this regard is barbaric.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015
There are already way too many children out there who no-one adopts.

"Killed", that word does not fit here. Abortion is supposed to be done before the fetus develops into a baby. When an abortion is made, what you're aborting is simply a lump of cells. I know a girl whose mother was denied an abortion and she and her mother went through Hell for it, is that the king of world you want to live in?
If I was aborted, I would not care, I would not feel it. My brain would not have been developed enough to, that's the point, being killed is different.
If you're against abortion because it is potential life, then I hope you're against masturbating to because it's basically mass murder.
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NicholePinem Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
At eight weeks the baby(not fetus!) is moving and has a heartbeat. It's killing an innocent child. Most people who get abortions are just to stupid to wrap it before tapping it. If it was over something like rape, I might understand. You're killing an innocent baby because you were stupid and did the dirty without thinking of the consequences.

Back to the has. A heartbeat thing, you can't get a abortion before it developed a heartbeat. Technically if your heart is beating your alive, so killing that little child is murder.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2016
Actually until the fetus is born it is scientifically called a fetus. After birth, it is called a baby. Stick to science.
Until 8 weeks it is called an embryo.
Most abortions are actually done at 12 weeks tops. Abortions from 16 weeks+ are rare and are under special circumstances.

Why does it matter if it has a heartbeat? A heartbeat does not equal a life. A heartbeat simply means blood is circulating. You can't base your argument on a heartbeat, there's more than just that. The rest of the body's development and most importantly, the brain, is what matters. We aren't a heart, we are a brain. The fetus has a loooong way to go after just 8 weeks.

To me, it seems like you're not informed enough. You think that the people having abortions are stupid irresponsible people that just don't wanna be burdened. You think that life begins at conception and that an embryo is a baby. You want to sympathize with it more than the person.
Well, that's not how it is. Scientifically, it has not been defined when life begins, because it's very hard to define living things. Women who have abortions aren't stupid, and they are certainly more important lump of cells.
www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journa… Read this research. Look into things.
You can get pregnant with using condoms and birth control, you can get pregnant even if you use protection. And you know what? I don't give a shit if they had a stupid moment and didn't have protected sex (which is a rare thing anyways nowadays because people use protection), their lives are still more important than a non-conscious fetus. Women and girls have abortions because they were raped, they aren't ready for the HUGE responsibility that is kids, they aren't financially secure enough and wouldn't be able to feed themselves and the baby, the reasons go on and on.
Innocent baby? It.is.not.a.baby.
This is clearly not a scientific argument, it's a moral argument. Why do you care more about a potential person than an already living person? Why do you want to punish them with a baby? Why are you so angry over a lump of cells? If you are against abortion, then you should be against masturbation to. Sperm is a potential life. 
Not all people can go through birth just to give the baby away. Pregnancy and birth are very dangerous to humans even with all our technology, and many people can't handle it, especially since they don't want it and don't even wanna keep it.
If a heartbeat means you're alive then why is it not considered murder to pull the plug on a brain dead person?
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No there aren't actually enough children out there to be adopted.

3.3 million couples waiting in the USA. If there were enough, they wouldn't be waiting. There are only 104,500 children waiting to be adopted, and a whole lot of bureaucrats and middle-men in between who drag out the process.

So many childless couples wish that they could have children.



Planned Parenthood has funded a rather misleading promotion of a false narrative so they can stay in their murder business.

Killed fits perfectly. You kill when you render a living creature lifeless. There's no scientific evidence to support the pretence that a foetus is anything other than a human being, so it's also murder. You're just in denial.

Do you know much about Planned Parenthood's founder? Her name was Margaret Sanger, and she was really into eugenics.

We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. – Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, 1939

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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015
I don't trust these bullshit statistics, why? Because if you actually go out YOU'LL FUCKING SEE ORPHANAGES ARE FULL. NO ONE is adopting those children, people won't either let them because they're gay or simply no-one wants to get them. 
You want to force a woman through pregnancy, which is literally torture and is damage that cannot be undone forever, just to have that kid be adopted? That's disgusting and inhuman. If you really care so much about adoption then go have kids just to put them up for adoption, do it. Where do you get all your information from, the internet?

There is scientific evidence, a person is their brain, if their brain is not developed enough they are not a fucking person. It's just a fucking fetus. Please do some goddamn research.
Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, you uneducated twat. And I'm the one whose in denial? Why would I be in denial about this? If it was actually murder I simply wouldn't support it.

Who gives a flying fuck who was it's founder? That way of extermination will not work and planned parenthood has helped more instead of done damage. They helped more women than you could imagine. How is a few cells more important than the person who is carrying it? Why would you force a young person to go through that!? Even dead bodies have more control over their bodies than women if you take away their right to abortion.
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
There's nothing sexist about being against murdering unborn babies.
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GrimtalesRachel Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
It depends on the reasoning of every person.

But it's not a baby if it is unborn and is able to be aborted. The earliest a fetus can be considered a baby is 20-24 weeks, abortions are usually forbidden up to those weeks except in special cases. What makes it so precious? The fact that it's a potential life? But there is potential life everywhere, every time a woman goes through a period or a man who masturbates they lose a potential life, every time someone doesn't have sex with someone else and doesn't get pregnant a potential life is lost.

I wrote that comment years ago, I was obviously a lot more angry and restrained, I was like 13? lol
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2017
A fetus counts as a baby long before that, and the periods and masturbation argument is one of the oldest and most ridiculous I've ever heard.
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I trust the statistics over your anecdotes. I already mentioned why there are kids not yet adopted, but you brushed right by it and ignored the problem of the WHY;

Recall this bit? There are only 104,500 children waiting to be adopted, and a whole lot of bureaucrats and middle-men in between who drag out the process. It is worth their time to delay adoptions and make it difficult because this is a profitable business for these middle-men.

The founder of Planned Parenthood made their original policies, and those policies are being continued, that's why it is extremely important to pay attention to who and why someone founded an organisation - any organisation.

The vast majority of Planned Parenthood's abortion clinics are in neighbourhoods that are predominantly black.

A black woman's baby in the USA is 5x times as likely to be aborted in comparison to a white woman's baby.

There are far more Planned Parenthood clinics in black American neighbourhoods than in white American neighbourhoods of the same income level = The racist agenda is loud and clear.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a longtime sponsor and board member of the American Eugenics Society. To “clear the way” Sanger wanted to segregate and sterilize those deemed by her and the elites as racially or socially undesirable.

Planned Parenthood secretary Osborne, speaking in 1973 on the reason for changing the name of the American Eugenics Society to The Society for the Study of Social Biology after the Roe v. Wade decision said: “The name was changed because it became evident that changes of a eugenic nature would be made for reasons other than eugenics, and that tying a eugenic label on them would more often hinder than help their adoption. Birth control and abortion are turning out to be great eugenic advances of our time.

Back in 1992, many African-Americans were already aware of this.
www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.h…

The evidence that PP is all about white supremacy and control of the black population goes back decades.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a longtime sponsor and board member of the American Eugenics Society. To “clear the way” Sanger wanted to segregate and sterilize those deemed by her and the elites as racially or socially undesirable.

Planned Parenthood secretary Osborne, speaking in 1973 on the reason for changing the name of the American Eugenics Society to The Society for the Study of Social Biology after the Roe v. Wade decision said: “The name was changed because it became evident that changes of a eugenic nature would be made for reasons other than eugenics, and that tying a eugenic label on them would more often hinder than help their adoption. Birth control and abortion are turning out to be great eugenic advances of our time.

Back in 1992, many African-Americans were already aware of this.
www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.h…

The evidence that PP is all about white supremacy and control of the black population goes back decades.
www.truthwiki.org/margaret-san…

Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood was a sicko anyway
govtslaves.info/wp-content/upl…

In her book, Woman and the New Race, by Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Sanger wrote, “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it,”

govtslaves.info/wp-content/upl…

The 1923 edition of Sanger's book was published by the Eugenics Publishing Company.

www.jillstanek.com/2007/05/mar…

In 1922, in her book, Woman, Morality, and Birth Control, she stated the policy of hiding the eugenics agenda by employing black religious ministers as shills to lie about it.

We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities.  The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

These are the racist policies which you ignore.

The whole "pro-choice" argument is a trick, intended to mislead the vast majority of people to continue support for organisations such as Planned Parenthood that portray themselves as having high ideals for the good of individuals, while carrying out horrors and a racist policy against "undesirables" as decided by the powerful elites who ensure their funding.

You should watch this;
www.maafa21.com/


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toasted-rupees3119 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 25, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm gonna stop you right there for a second while I throw together an counterargument for your shitty anti-choice one.

just.... Did you really, REALLY just say "There are only 104,500 children waiting to be adopted"?
3.3 million couples aren't necessary fit to be parents, and there are more than 104,500 kids in the system. Those are the kids that are ELIGIBLE for adoption. You also seem to forget that the U.S. Is not the only place you can adopt from, and on top of that, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW MANY COUPLES WANT A FUCKING KID, I am not their god damn baby machine. You will not strip me of my rights so another woman can have a child.
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015
if 3.3 million couples aren't necessarily fit to be parents, who decides? Are you trying to claim that the majority aren't? How so?
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derek4444 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
To me This picture is just sorta hilarious
idk why but the baby just fcking doing a backflip away just cracks me up
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DragonOfEvil Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I'm pro-choice because:

I'd rather have a few fetuses be aborted then to have innocent plants get murdered. 

I'd rather have a few fetuses be aborted then have animals getting kicked out of there homes and being left to starve.

I'd rather have a few fetuses be aborted then to have 99% of humanity get wiped out by a wide spread plague.

I'd rather have a few fetuses be aborted then to have the environment become more poisoned and polluted than it already is.
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015
It's not "pro" choice when the baby isn't given a choice.
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DragonOfEvil Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah, because a thoughtless and conscienceless fetus is totally capable of making choices for itself! (I'm being sarcastic incase you're too stupid to tell)
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2015
Prove that the child has no conscience.

You're simply denying that a baby is still human.
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DragonOfEvil Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
There is no proof this it does.
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LadyLambdadelta Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
You're disgusting.
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